Highways England accused of deliberately over-complicating Lower Thames Crossing consultation

” but the documents run to thousands of pages.”

“Thurrock Council fear people could therefore be put off from responding and believes it could be a deliberate ploy from Highways England.”

Thats lawyers defensive speak if ever I heard it.
Yes it IS a ploy. Sue me Highways England?

Course littel old granny ain’t going to read a thousend page document. Neither am I.

“Both prior to, and throughout the consultation process, Highways England has treated us and our residents with utter contempt.

Now you get it. Thats why its just called a box ticking exercise.

Reading the BBC news website I see it read the
“500-page draft withdrawal agreement”

So basically Highways England has come up with
“a road across Thurrock”
document bigger than the entire EU withdrawal document.

Thats some fucking achievement.

CTB, amused again.

We need the Margaret Thatcher Lower Crossing desperately. We are just all Nimbys’.

However CTB look into how many major developments going on at the moment.

The London Borough of Thurrock is upon us.

“CTB, amused again.”
Yeah I am sorry I try not to swear honestly but theirs fuck allI can do about it. 🙂
Line taken from TV show Porridge.

“Margaret Thatcher Lower Crossing”
I swear if its called the Margaret Thatcher I am going to blow the dam thing up I am serious. She started this neoliberalism nightmare.

I thought we were theLondon Borough of Thurrock or is it the 51st imperialistic State of the US. Or is that when we get an America First trade deal.

The design pages are enough to realise it’s a cluster fuck of a design without you g any further.

CTB

Lol – your becoming bitter and twisted. Please don’t let it get to you.

Look at the good things Maggie done. Smash the unions. Took back the Falklands, Reduced taxation, Sold tennents their council homes.
It was the land of opportunity until Blair got in and ruined it with all his stealth taxes.

Oh, how we can just but dream now.

“Smash the unions.”
Yeap and now its gone the other way and corporations are taking the total piss.

Took back the Falklands,
It was her who caused the bloody whole thing. Secret deal to sell them out was it not? She even went as far as to pull out ships in the area for cut backs that gave them even more an idea to do it.
Then to top it all off more Falklands Vets committed suicide after the whole thing than died during the event.

Sold Council homes. Now no countcil homes. None built with the money raised. That gone too due to tax cuts.
Now massive housing problem. with a 15+ year waiting time for council property.
But your generation made a quick buck getting the homes at a knocked down price and now can flip them for a massive profit. The current kids cannot.

Reduced taxes and now the baby boombers dont have enough money to pay for there healthcare and social care.
I even heard they were on about having the over 40 pay taxes for there care. So much for living within your means.

“land of opportunity”
It was never that
You bring in neoliberalism and it crashes in record time. 1987 Crash.
and wealth inequality thus opportunity sucked out as time goes on. More and more people excluded from the system

“Blair got in and ruined it with all his stealth taxes.”
I thought it was maggie who used indirect taxation.
None of them can get away with that claim to be fair.

CTB I have to question that the very fact you are so bitter and twisted about the UK, why you still live here?
I understand your benefits have been unfairly cut (I say that as a genuine case) but you do seem rather angry at the world.
I know you are not keen on any politician so who would you vote for?

We all have had great opportunities here, some succeed and others don’t, thats life my friend.

“bitter and twisted about the UK”
UK people no UK SME’S no. UK politics yes.
But thanks for twisting it that I was anti British for having a different viewpoint to you on certain topics an old trick is it not.

Go where? I have no choice I was Born here only citizenship. Would not going somewhere else just mean. same people with same set of problems. Why don’t I deal with them here is that ok?

I understand your benefits have been unfairly cut (I say that as a genuine case)
That is incorrect. You Understand wrong.

“but you do seem rather angry at the world.”
So do you. everyone does do they not.

“I know you are not keen on any politician so who would you vote for?”
None I am even leaving the Green party. I write on my Voting paper “ALL Crap” JDP can confirm this through GCHQ do you know they know who you vote for. You even have a number on the voting paper.
We have no good choices to vote for Its Conservative or Labour or Democratic and Republican if in the US and they have crashed the system so many times its boring. Is it not.

“We all have had great opportunities here, some succeed and others don’t, thats life my friend.”
It is when opportunities are being reduced as time goes on I object to. Not the above.

“I know you are not keen on any politician?”

I dont know who to credit this too but there was a saying in the 60’s

Plastic God.

CTB you lost me on the plastic God thing I have to say.

In no way do I think a different viewpoint from me is twisting it. You are so angry at the system. Me, I just play it and count the money along the way. Try it it’s great.

Opportunities are not being reduced as you claim. Why do you think we have so many economic migrants? They get off their backside and work at the opportunities that are before them.
Between you and Cookie you winge about how hard done by you are by the state, but do nothing. Take a leaf out the migrant book my friend.

“CTB you lost me on the plastic God thing I have to say.”

Some saying in music videos I have from 60’s Music Festivals.

economic migrants?

BBC says they are going back to the EU since the vote.

Me, I just play it and count the money along the way. Try it it’s great.

I am. and hav been

“Opportunities are not being reduced”

they are. you just dont want to admit it due to ideology. 10x income for a home. so on it is reducing spending power for the young. the data is showing it some of it I’ve posted before.
Austarity for the people and Billions each month for Banksters while the national debt is growing tdue to it.
But then we both know you and the 1% neeliberals benefit from this racket.
But what pisses me off is when it crashes and the 1% don’t take the hit.
“Too big to fail too big too Jail”
That drives me mental.
Then they make the whole thing even bigger than before and when it crashes next what are they going to do?
It ain’t Capitalism.
“I just play it and count the money”
I just wish you’d be honest about the neoliberal system is all.

I have explained my position many times on here, you just don’t want to except it.

Try and remember the following:

I have NO political alliance, they are all the same in my book.
I want a fairer system for all.
I am all for the benefit system helping those in their need. it’s the parasites that I find distasteful.
I see whats happening to this country as you do and most others for that matter, I just don’t bury my head in the sand.

Most of all I look after no1 as nobody else will do.

There are plenty of opportunities out there as I say, you just choose to ignore that fact.

I told you why house prices are going up..supply and demand, again you ignore that.

I love all your statistics CTB but many of them are just Gov published spin and you know that.
Please don’t start spouting drivel like Cookie. It only shows you as resentful, bitter and twisted.
Remember, we all started with the same opportunities, some take them, some don’t.

I have explained my position many times on here, you just don’t want to except it.

I accept you have explained you’re positions you’ve made that very clear. Same.
A few times I have agreed with posts.

“There are plenty of opportunities out there as I say, you just choose to ignore that fact.”

No I didn’t I said they are being reduced.

“I love all your statistics CTB but many of them are just Gov published spin and you know that.”

What chance does that give anyone. you give a
licence for any fascist or conspiracy theorist to make any kind of un backed claim then do the normal things on forums and claim they are an expert on that subject.
I fear your posts will go into the
Fascist or conspiracy theorist spectrum you could make any kind of unbacked claim.

Did you go to the same drivel school as Cookie???

Thats an insult.

Calling two schools in two different boroughs
“drivel school”

Ain’t right people from my school went on to university.

If you don’t agree with people ok. But don’t do that.

thurrocksgonedownhill – I haven’t even commented on this news item and you have to try to attack me in some way, don’t you? You make two mistakes – 1) that I was educated or even grew up in Thurrock and 2) that my education was as bad as yours was given that you can’t even use contractions and you’ve shown an inability to quote properly. Given your attitude that you’re better than everyone else, I take it you’re a grammar school graduate. If I’m right, that does not show grammar schools in a very good light ’cause, damn, you’re dumb.

Veni, vidi, iterum calce asinus tuus!

Catching the Bus – What you have to take into account is that TGDH has a child-like mind and he proves that every day especially when he has a go at me (albeit a side strike rather than a full frontal attack) on an article that I haven’t even commented on. The best thing to do is reply once if you feel the need and then ignore him because he just isn’t worth wasting your time on.

Oh Cookie, You haven’t a clue about me..lol

Best you don’t comment with drivel. All you do is make assumptions that are so of target.

I know you can’t help your unfortunate life but please we are bored with you.

Oh Cookie, You haven’t a clue about me..lol

Don’t be too sure on that one.

“I know you can’t help your unfortunate life but please we are bored with you.”

That’s incrorect I am not.

assumptions that are so of target?

thurrocksgonedownhill – I’ve got a couple of minutes to spare so…

“Oh Cookie, You haven’t a clue about me..lol” – Every person I’ve ever met who went to grammar school thinks they are better than everyone else so it’s a good bet you went to one (although with all the errors you make in your comments, I’d also bet that someone else sat any exams for you). You’re very bitter and venomous to people on benefits, those with disabilities or mental health issues so I’m guessing that every partner you’ve ever had has cheated on you with a benefit claiming disabled person with mental health issues (although you probably never found out about all of them, you did find out about one). If you’ve got kids (horrible thought but possible), I’d have DNA tests done on them so you can track down their real dads and get them to send child support.

“Best you don’t comment with drivel.” – Why not? It’s all you ever do. At least mine has actual facts and some thought behind what I say.

“All you do is make assumptions that are so of target.” – The assumptions about you are based on what you say, how you say it and the errors you make when you try to articulate them on forums like this. You make assumptions based only on your degenerate worldview which shows how dumb you are hence the assumption that you’re a grammar schoolboy (emphasis on the BOY). Also, the term is ‘OFF target’ not “OF target” (emphasis added by me).

“I know you can’t help your unfortunate life but please we are bored with you.” – My life is far from unfortunate because the hurdles I have to overcome on a daily basis have made me a better person. Your life seems to have been quite blessed the way you keep talking about it, yet it has made you a bitter, twisted, arrogant and particularly dumb individual. The people with the unfortunate lives are the people who know you personally but I can’t pity them because they’re probably as screwed up as you are.

Boredom comes from being unable to understand what is being said or when a subject has lost its allure. As you very rarely pay attention to what people say I’d guess you’re bored for the former reason.

Finally, calling me “Cookie” doesn’t annoy me but, as the last time I was called “Cookie” was when I was 7 years old, I see it as childish, the result of a childish mind.

Veni, vidi, iterum calce asinus tuus.

Cookie, your right of should read off. But that’s it..lol

I don’t have any problem with anyone GENUINE on benefits. Your just a parasite, that’s the problem. Reading your posts I see no reason why you can’t work, you just choose to leech off the system. Your mum must be so proud of you.

Remind me again – living in Tilbury on benefits…Wow what a success story you are. No wonder your a Labour voter…lol

“I don’t have any problem with anyone GENUINE on benefits.”

You Do.
You might not post so but you have bad thoughts about them. Tories are writing them off from the system saying theres no hope for these kinds of people.
Next logical step for them is say we should kill them.
thats 10 million including the economically inactive and 14 million including those in Poverty.

Me on the other hand also has a problem with people on benefits my plan is to get them into work and paying into the system.
Thus grow GDP and create more small businesses and make life better for all.
But because of Fucked up ideology politicians and yoou cannot see that.

Your just a parasite, that’s the problem. Reading your posts I see no reason why you can’t work, you just choose to leech off the system. Your mum must be so proud of you.

That was bang out of order. You don’t know his case. or were at his medicals. Neither was I.
Asumptions?

You’ve knocked down and made assumptions about Tilbury,

On benefits was the only true part of the above post TGDH.

“living in Tilbury…Wow what a success story you are”

This is disrespectful and implies no one from TIlbury can make a success of there lifes.
Do you really want me to just give up and not start my new job in January. because theres no hope reading you’re views on TIlbury so on…;?
Thats the message you are transmitting.

It’s all so counter productive and not in your own interest TDGH.

thurrocksgonedownhill – “Cookie, your right of should read off. But that’s it..lol” – Is there a proper sentence there ’cause it looks like a brain damaged monkey has picked words from a paper shredder and tried to put them together. Shame because it gives brain damaged monkeys a bad name.

“I don’t have any problem with anyone GENUINE on benefits.” – You say that but your comments show that that’s just something you say before you attack someone on benefits for genuine reasons. Case in point ˅

“Your just a parasite, that’s the problem.” – I have jumped through all the hoops, gone through all the assessments/re-assessments and have been judged a genuine claimant by the DWP. I have medical records that support my claim; in fact, many medical records and a number of medical diagnoses. And how many times do I have to correct your punctuation? The word is ‘you’re’, not “Your”. Your lack of education is showing again.

“Reading your posts I see no reason why you can’t work, you just choose to leech off the system.” – That’s because you have no knowledge of mental health issues so you couldn’t possibly understand what prevents me from working. Just because someone can put together a well thought out sentence with a vocabulary that you can only dream of, doesn’t mean that they are able to hold down a job. And just because someone has mental health issues doesn’t mean that they are as dumb as you are. I paid into the system while I was in work, I expect the system to look after me when I can’t work – just like you would.

“Your mum must be so proud of you.” – Actually she is very proud. Proud of the fact that I have overcome many challenges; proud that when she needed me to help her look after her mother, I was there whilst holding down a job; proud of the fact that, while I was well enough, I was helping many other people with the voluntary work I was doing despite the enormous negative effect it was having on me personally and proud of the fact that, although I was never paid, I was a journalist for this very website. Is your mother proud of raising a venom-spewing Nazi?

“Remind me again – living in Tilbury on benefits…Wow what a success story you are. No wonder your a Labour voter…lol” – Let’s look at the assumptions you’re making and the errors based on them. I don’t live in Tilbury – erroneous assumption which is funny because I’ve made no secret of where I live. I haven’t always lived on benefits so you’ve just made a sweeping statement that doesn’t bear scrutiny. While I have voted Labour in the last two General Elections, I have, in fact, voted for the Lib Dems and, back in the 1990s, the Referendum Party so I cannot be labelled as one type of voter or another because I vote for the party I think has the best pitch.

Finally, I must have really hit home about being cheated on for you to be so angry as to launch such a lame attack on me. It’s not my fault that your partner prefers the passionate embrace of a disabled benefit claimant with mental health issues, they are probably just much better lovers than you. Most people who spew as much venom as you do tend to have tiny dicks and like to have women peg them.

Funny thing is – all this proves is that you can’t stop thinking about me and how better I am than you. Sorry dude, even if I did guys, I don’t do people with IQs that can be beaten by a potted plant so it’s never going to happen. LOL

This is so much fun but I’m bored with kicking your ass so goodbye. I’ll ignore you. You ignore me.

Veni, vidi, iterum calce asinus tuus!

Catching the Bus – Thanks for trying to defend me against TGDH’s personal attack but you don’t have to. I find his attacks rather amusing because he makes assumptions he can’t back up with evidence, makes errors in what he says and shows his ignorance of so many subjects that I just have to pity his parents having dragged up such a disappointing specimen. He can’t even use contractions, quote properly or, judging by his last comment, form proper sentences. I don’t even know why I reply to his personal attacks but I suppose it’s because I’m a nice person and he really seems to need the attention. He can’t have any real friends, just people who keep him around to keep the numbers up. And with his partner sleeping with every disabled benefit claimant (s)he can find to get some satisfaction, he really needs a friend even if it’s one like me who has nothing but pity for him.

By the way – Take your name off of your screen name. You don’t need to identify yourself because you don’t write offensive stuff about people who are worse off than yourself so you can’t be called a coward for hiding in anonymity. People who espouse hateful views of entire groups of less fortunate people and spew those views on open forums in anonymity is a coward.

Poor old TGDH – a cowardly, ignorant, friendless inadequate who’s so starved of attention he has to spew hate with every breath that he takes. Sad really.

You are funny Cookie.

I love bringing out that mental anger in you. It is such fun.

Me and my husband find it highly entertaining.

I might even put you forward for the next civic awards.

thurrocksgonedownhill – “You are funny Cookie.” – Thank you. A compliment at last! You’re learning. Good for you! (patronising pat on the head)

“I love bringing out that mental anger in you. It is such fun.” – No anger here but I’ve pressed enough of your buttons to provoke it in you.

“Me and my husband find it highly entertaining.” – Some more information to work with, thanks. Who’s the top in your relationship?

“I might even put you forward for the next civic awards.” – No need. Making a fool of you is reward enough.

You must have got someone to type your comment for you because there weren’t any mistakes in that one. Well done! I always say that if something isn’t within your aptitude, you should get someone else to do it for you. (patronising pat on the head)

Veni, vidi, iterum calce asinus tuus!

WTF.
“Me and my husband find it highly entertaining.”

It was only afew years ago I was round your house and your wife (Who is very beautiful I might ad) was in the garden.

I’m glad you’ve come out good on you.
I support the LGBT community.

Valen (Myles) Cook
“By the way – Take your name off of your screen name. You don’t need to identify yourself because you don’t write offensive stuff about people who are worse off than yourself so you can’t be called a coward for hiding in anonymity. People who espouse hateful views of entire groups of less fortunate people and spew those views on open forums in anonymity is a coward.”

Too be honest I’m dead anyway the establishment will kill me. But atleast I can see it coming the way things are going.

I do wish TGDH would not hide behind a screen name and post hateful stuff against sections of society. I know who he is.
I also know why he does not because he is worried about his reputation among people.

Catching the Bus – TGDS hides behind a screen name because he’s a coward, pure and simple. He probably doesn’t even believe anything he says because if he really believed the crap he spouts he wouldn’t be afraid to say them using his real name. He posts hateful stuff in anonymity because it’s easy to attack people when they can’t identify the person attacking them. It’s sad really. He spouts rubbish because he doesn’t get any attention and he’s so desperately in need of external validation that any attention is good attention. He also sees his own inferiority within himself and is so frightened by it that he projects those things he hates about himself onto any available target – me, benefit claimants, EU migrants, the legions of guys that his partner cheats on him with – which is what Hitler did to the Jews, the disabled, gypsies, Socialists and other groups that frightened him.

You should pity someone like him. I know I do.