SENIOR Thurrock councillor, Tunde Ojetola has submitted an entry in his blog site that asks a number of questions of the new presence of Ukip
Cllr Tunde said: “Thurrock had been criticised as one of the worse places for community cohesion across England. Over the past few years, the blue and the red sides of the political spectrum had tried to fight against the onset of extremism and hatred, and encouraged Thurrock people to embrace our differences. By joint effort we had fought against advances from far right parties and told them they had no place in Thurrock.
“As a Council we have put a lot in place to learn to embrace and celebrate our differences; we support students’ annual trip to the concentration camp in Auschwitz to learn the lessons from WWII and have the Holocaust Memorial day entrenched in our civic diaries. We commemorate St Georges’ day and join in Diwali and Black History Month celebrations. We have enjoyed lovely sunny (and rainy) days during T-Fest, singing and dancing to loud, not so audible music at Grays beach and enjoyed a somewhat different civic dinner in 2013 with its unique Asian theme.
“Personally, I have encouraged all areas of Thurrock to embrace our differences and in addition to the above, have attended both the Ghanaian and Sri Lankan community events to understand their cultures and celebrate our differences. I have addressed this issue in Full Council and in SACRE (the Religious Education committee) and spoke about it in TRUST, all with a view to tackle inequality.
“The 2011 Census confirmed that the BME population has grown to just circa 20%. That means that there are just under 30,000 non white residents in Thurrock; 30,000 residents who have every right to be able to go about their daily lives without fear of abuse or attack.
“There is now a new player on the scene.
“The arrival of the purple to join the colours in Thurrock has changed the political face of the Borough yet again. If the opposition to the merger of Thurrock to Barking and Dagenham is deemed racist, what will the arrival of the new troupe mean?
Although the colour of the political spectrum is now blue, red and purple, we should ensure it doesn’t have a negative impact on the white, brown and black skin colours of Thurrock people.
The Council should be committed to its equality statement to “protect the vulnerable and most at risk” and I for one will be holding the Council to task on that, no matter the colours at play.
Will you?
Perhaps Cllr Tunde should have taken his own advice, when Cllr Coxshall discriminated against a ethnic minority of Travellers calling them big fat Gypsy cesspits , I would like to ask Cllr Tunde his thoughts regarding Cllr Coxshalls comments
And public behaviour or like other Tories is Tunde all Talk
the tories played the race card during the recent elections,ejitola should practice what he preaches.
It will be interesting to see if Cllr Tunde votes with UKIP, as they say the proof is in the pudding
let’s see how much integrity this gentleman has?
“We want to banish the old, hideously white, retrograde England and usher in a new multicultural society” That’s what T Blair’s speech writer quoted T Blair saying about the Labour party’s mass immigration policy more than a decade ago. One of the most disgusting things to be said about an entire nation. That from the leader of the caring sharing Labour party.
Then we have Lord Mandelson, another Labour gem, making a speech in which he admitted that the Labour party sent out search parties all across the world to get people to come to this country.
Don’t talk to the British people about racism and inclusiveness Mr Ojetola. The British people were lied to and marginalised in their own country by the Labour party hierarchy. If ever there was a racist comment to be condemmed, then hideously white should have been the one.
People have had enough. They are sick and tired of being told they are racist, particularly from the people that said this country was hideously white. They are sick and tired of being accused of not being tolerant. Look at the country you came from Mr Ojetola and tell us how tolerant they would be of millions of hideously white people turning up in their country and asking to be educated, cared for medically and financially and wanting a house to live in when they have contributed nothing.
Tolerance seems to be a one way street in this country and those that scream racist at everyone and accuse everyone of being intolerant are the worst offenders. Get off your high horse and stop lecturing the people of Thurrock about tolerance. Perhaps go to some more of your selective community meetings and preach that message to them.
We are the host country Mr Ojetola. Immigrants are supposed to assimilate to our way of life, not demand that it is changed beyond recognition to suit those that came here. Isn’t that supposed to be the reason they came here afterall. They are not willing to do that and that is their problem, not the problem of the people of Thurrock.
Perhaps we should all step outside the box and have a good look at where we are now and how we arrived here. Yes, change is needed, yes we need to tighten our controls on immigration and many other issues at home. However hatred and finger pointing is not the answer. I have watched from a distance and guessed we would arrive at this point. Greed seems to spring to mind, and I do beleive we are all gulity of this in some shape or form. As for us,as a nation I wonder how the rest of the world sees us? have we ever thought what an opinion poll would show us? The comments on this page are interesting as was the voting in last months local elections a shift from the left, from the middle to far right, remembering we need a left and a right to walk or we may be in danger of falling over??? . Cllr Ojetola has some fair comments as do the other commenters. So my question on greed. How many british people, employed legaly or illegaly foreigners to work for them for pay lower than that of a britsh employee? My question on racisum. HOW FAR DO WE GO BACK, where are we all over the world and how do the people in those countries feel about us in theirs, whether we have taken wealth with us or not? Remembering for centuries we have trampled all over the world with a gun in one hand and a bible in the other, in the past I know but it happened. There is definately a masculine vibration going on in europe and around the world so be careful what you wish for. P.S. my liberty is important something I have, I do not want any govt to take that liberty or to tell me how to live my life.
We are not an unpopular country, that’s why people risk their lives and pay thousands of pounds to get here.
I doubt whether the old “we were an empire once” will wash with most people as an excuse for the biggest covert social engineering experiment this country has ever experienced. The metro socialist elite could have found another way of cleansing their soles of the terrible evil this country inflicted on the world.
It’s interesting when we read the history of the world that the Roman, Greek and Egyptian empires were great civilisations that made humanity whereas the British are seen by the left as a marauding thug raping the world at gunpoint forr our own self gratification.
A look at history will show the vast majority of the people of this country neither took part in nor benefited from the days of empire regardless of how hard the sanctimonious left try to convince people otherwise.
NoVoice, with respect you are misquoting and misallocating that ‘hideously white’ comment. Mr Blair never said any such thing. His speech writer, Mr Neather, surmised that this was the approach of the Labour government. Possible you are confusing it with a comment from Greg Dyke, who when chair of the BBC, described the Corporation as ‘hideoulsy white’.
Some great comments on this item but considering the swell of the local vote for UKIP I thought there would have been a lot more. Just a note for the thousands of you that voted for these people please do not just sit back and hope they will change everything. You MUSt ensure that you hold each and every one of these councillors to task with as many questions as possible both at full council and at their surgeries (providing they have them). As Cherry said “be careful what you wish for” as I do hope you have not just elected 5 local councillors who only are interested in national policies?
littletommytucker
That is a good point. UKIP’s agenda is esentially a national one (UK out of EU) and I question whether their local councillors have the grit and tenacity to deal with day to day issues of housing, ASB, schools, social care, bins, traffic, environmetal health, and all the other things that matter a great deal to local people. The worry will be that, like the BNP in Thurrock’s sister authority, Barking & Dagenham, the UKIP councillors will get bored after a couple of months, and stop turning up. That would be a great shame, especially since the elections in May saw the loss of two really great local councillors in Lynn Carr (Con) and Angie Gaywood (Labour), replaced by two UKIP novices. If they don’t do their best for local residents, they won’t last long at Thurrock!
FOUR out of five hate crimes in Thurrock are race-related.
New figures show that between October 2012 and September 2013, 243 race crimes were reported to the police.
Total hate crimes were up 28 per cent to 300, compared to 235 a year earlietr.
Of those, 13 related to the victim’s sexuality and 17 related to a disability.
My partner is Asian and for the last three years we have seen increasing levels of abuse levied at us. This abuse stems from ignorance and hate. Reading numerous comments it would appear it is okay to hold racist views and to constantly push the pathetic agenda of “they take our homes and jobs….”, the rubbish comments of the 1970’s far right. My family has lived in Thurrock since 1642. I will go after the hate crime cowards and those scum that constantly fan the flames of hate between the different people s populating multicultural Thurrock. It would also be good if all blogs listed the real names of subscribers.
MARTIN NIEMÖLLER: “FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE SOCIALISTS…”
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Martin Niemöller, a prominent Protestant pastor who opposed the Nazi regime. He spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps. Germany, 1937.
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Martin Niemöller (1892-1984) was a prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last seven years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.
Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation:
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out–
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me–and there was no one left to speak for me.
Vince 63 i am sorry for your partners and your experiences. I have visited Auschwitz and can say i was horrified and saddened that such vile acts were committed from one human to another. The world is a big place, and hatred has no place in my heart. Alas i fear the electorate need to understand the voting system and exactly what they are voting for. Maybe a good read of all the political parties manifestos is a good place to start. After all would you buy a book with out reading the back?. I wonder if all the bus stop,playground,supermarket and post office ques all speak about the same thing. If they do them perhaps, a lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to put its pants on !!
The lies are not stopped because all hope, that racial slurs are just a one off. But they are not. People do not want trouble so reporting does not happen. I have worked in Thurrock Community roles since 1996. I gave seen things get better and then rot sets in. The extreme far right has largely been beaten but the kindle of misinformation and myth has begun to be piled again for a new generation of extremists. Housing and jobs are badly needed in Thurrock. There also needs to be reviews of sub contracting, zero rate contracts pay and conditions within certain parts of industry. Gangmasters rules are actually being relaxed! This will lead to further issues between workers. Exploitation exists and in turn cheap labour fuels Zenophobic backlash as workers lose jobs to cheaper employees.
Housing if there has been a flagrant breach of rules allowing immigrants first choice lets see it. The only thing is, there are no cases of preference. No proof. Getting a Council home is difficult for all. Council officers work tirelessly to provide what is demanded but the simple fact is demand always out strips supply. More jobs better in work regulation and build more affordable housing. Time to get my Wand!
Ulysses it probably won’t surprise you that I didn’t pluck that statement out of thin air. It’s been reported in the national media in exactly the same way and I’m not talking about the Express or the Mail. Perhaps I should have used the word interpreted instead of quoted.
Let me put it another way. What was said by the Labour ledaership that led to the speech writer of the Labour leader to surmise that the overarching view of the entire Labour party was that they wished to banish the old, hideously white, retrograde England in favour of a multicultural society. Also, if they decided that as a party, wouldn’t it have been courteous of them to notify the population as a whole.
I hate yo say it Ulysses but, pull the other one, it’s got wmd’s on it.
If it is or was the view of the entire Labour party that they see this country as hideously white, does that not make them the largest bunch of hypocrites in the country?
Septic Bladder has said yesterday that the claims of corruption against FIFA are based on racism. That is how silly these claims of racism have become. The left may as well run around calling people stinky pants, that’s how much weight the word now carries thanks to the left.
Considering the anniversary that passed over the weekend, you would think that people would remember the sacrifice that the people of this country made to defeat real racism, the extermination of an entire people. Instead they still rant in the hope to drown out legitimate concerns that people have about immigration. I’m talking about mass immigration, not immigration as a whole.
We hear the siren voices of “be careful what you w ish for”. Those siren voices should take a look at what happened in a destabilised Germany and then tell us all they support mass immigration.
Incidentally, I had no idea Greg Dyke said that about the BBC. I wouldn’t be surprised though as the BBC is now viewed as the propaganda wing of the left to most people outside the Guardian and Independent readers group.
Sorry I’ve just discovered that I can change my public name. Thank god I don’t have to call myself NoVoice any more.
This is good to see people commenting without fear, making reasonable statements and starting to state facts. The world is driven by fear and greed, maybe one day both will stop. alas, there are similarities between germany in the twenties and us at the moment however i will not accept we are heading in the same direction. I pray we have learnt something. It is now time for all parties to listen, with their ears and their eyes. The problems are big but not unchangeable. What we are seeing is mainly due to capitalisum gone to far. Please keep this debate going it is educated sensible and has feeling. best wishes lynn
Another story in the news today about OFSTED. They have denied an outstanding rating to a school in Devon because the pupils of the school aren’t sufficiently diverse. They are all white British, not because of racist admission policies but, because the area is populated by white British people.
The head teacher of the school has had to arrange for all pupils to have an overnight stay in London at a cost to the parents off £35 per child so they can visit a school that is more ethnically diverse and learn about multicultural Britain.
So tell me who are the racists again. White British pupils are not good enough citizens of the country they were born in because they are not diverse enough. You really couldn’t make it up.
Steven
So tell me who are the racists again. White British pupils are not good enough citizens of the country they were born in because they are not diverse enough. You really couldn’t make it up.
When immigrants come to this country, you would expect them to integrate, and to understand that process, surely you would expect schools to teach English children that process, and show the diverse nature of different cultures in this country, if you would have gone through this process perhaps your outlook would have been less abrasive, and less insulting to ethnic minorities
Schools are for education, not political correctness indoctrination. Anyone that has been educated to a decent standard should be able to respect other people.
The metro socialist elite are obsessed with globalisation. Mass immigration to the western world is simply one of the ruses they used to achieve it. I see no reason to respect a lie that has done nothing but import poverty from around the world and make the rich richer. If that floats your boat Superman, be my guest, worship at the alter of globalisation. Make Tony Blair president of the world. The whole mass immigration con has done nothing to help ordinary people. Its simply made the lives of the youngest in society even harder.
It is very true that Tony Blair’s ,mass immigration policy was to blame for the overpopulation here in the UK but I think Cllr Ojetola is trying to say that as a local Cllr he cannot do anything to stop immigration, either from past colonies or Europe , but he can try to live with what he has and make sure it works without fear or retrebution for anybody. It appears to me that he is questioning whether or not the surge in UKIP vote will just stir up racist hatred rather than placate it as all the UKIP Cllrs in the world will not be able to prevent immigartion or get the UK out of Europe. I am a recent member of the conservative party as I believe that they are the only party who does have a plan to deal with Europe and will give us an In-Out referendum which Lab and Lib wont do . UKIP simply cannot deliver what they say they will do as they first do not have any MP’s ( remember Cllrs cant do anything about it) second they do not have a plan to do so other than just resign from Eurpoe and close our boders which would be an economic disaster without forethought.
I think ALL of the reaing 3 major parties MUST listen to peoples fears over continued immigartion figures but I also think that we, the people of the United Kingdom should think hard about not just what we want but how it would be best achieved and keep our Island a happy place to live and thrive for many generations to come whatever background they come from.
Steven
As usual you just talk bowlocks I have not mentioned Tony Blair once in my comments,
You’re the only person obsessed with Tony Blair why don’t you phone him up you might get a date out of it
I am going to stick my neck out here and make a comment I want you all to think about and that is we all are racist in certain terms. I once had a black friend while at college and he made the comment everyone carrys a bit of racism whether white, asian or black.
That comment stuck with me in the back of my head anyway. one day in 1994 I was walking down Oxford street when a black man attemped to mug me claiming he had a knife. After this fora week or so I was racist.
Maybe we all from time to time carry a bit of it and we need to fight it whether we are Asian, White or Black.
Will Tunde work with UKIP or will they work with him. time will tell? even tory icon Alf Garnett was a racist calling blacks coons.
Well this is all something to think about.
Hands up all those that would vote for a party that made a statement, had a belief or generally felt that they wanted to replace the old, hideously black, retrograde Africa with a new multicultural population. Or the old, hideously muslim, retrograde middle east with the same.
Hands up all those that would support a majority ethnic minority school being downgraded in an official report from the government purely and simply because they were mainly children from ethnic minorities.
Hands up all those that think a person is racist simply because they vote for a political party that doesn’t agree with the political philosophy of globalisation.
“the political philosophy of globalisation” What are you saying Steven that your against the Neo-Liberal Economy that has swept the world the last 30 years?
Yes I am Catching the bus, although I’m not sure whether that question was a bit tongue in cheek. There’s a reason why the rich have got richer and the rest can go spin on it. Clinton and Blair fell for it hook line and sinker, as did the European leaders.
Tell me what’s changed for the better for the ordinary man in the western world. A few around the world have got wealthier than they were. China will never be a pawn of the globalisers. Al Qaeda will fight them to the death. It’s largely a failure. The BRICS countries are now slowing down or coming to a standstill. Nice idea to spread the wealth through mass immigration. Unfortunately it just makes the ordinary people in the receiving countries poorer while the rich sit back and have another glass of bubbly.
Will you put your hand up to any of the above.
So is it the drugs, alcohol or just another episode. I run my own business twat. I’m an accountant twat. F*ck off back to your reality. Make sure you lock the door, you wouldn’t want the other residents getting in. You are a troll. You shut down debate because you have lost. You have no answer. You are pathetic. You, the turd and usually rocket1 gang together to shut down any debate you can’t win. Guess what, I know how to find out who one of you are. It won’t be long.
Thanks
But at least spell my surname correctly….
And please, let us all calm down…..
Michael Casey
speaking of the you. I wish to do that blog thread of the financial markets and how to watch out for the next crash. But I want Myles to proof read it which I will pay him for.
I’ll email you tomorrow and ask Myles if he will work with me.
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