Thursday, May 30, 2024

“Barking Mad?” Prime Minister David Cameron praises sharing services: “It is a good thing”

THE PRIME MINISTER, David Cameron, has praised the use of shared services in councils such as Thurrock. Whilst the Thurrock Conservatives have described the sharing of services between Thurrock and Barking and Dagenham as a “Barking mad plan”

Speaking on his whistle stop tour of Essex on Monday, YH asked him about the sharing of services by council such as Thurrock.

Mr Cameron said: “It is a good thing. It should be locally determined who you share with. My local council (West Oxfordshire) share but I know there is some unease in Thurrock as some say that you should be sharing with Essex and not London boroughs.

“The idea of sharing services if it genuinely releases money for the front line is a good thing but it must be determined locally”.

20 COMMENTS

  1. A misleading headline. Suggestions that local Tories are calling the Prime Minister barking mad, which he could well be, considering the back tracking on Europe and immigration.

    Has anyone within the Labour run council explained, or even published the cast iron benefits of sharing services with a London Borough as opposed to a neighbouring authority. Thought not.

    Does anyone in Thurrock seriously look at Barking and Dagenham, Newham, Tower Hamlets, Hackney, Haringey and think now there’s a role model I’d really like to be involved in. Or is it just the Labour party trying to facilitate the movement of their vote into Essex and Kent where they have admitted that these are areas that could lose them the election in 2015. It’s almost as good as the job they did concealing mass immigration. Groan.

  2. No Voice has made my point.

    Sharing services can be a good thing if shared with the right type of authority where each partner has something to offer the other. There is constantly this talk from all political sides about ‘talking Thurrock down’ but this is easy to do when our council look to Barking and Dagenham as a model they seek to emulate. There is no denying that the only reason Thurrock is sharing services with that borough is because it elects Labour every four years.

  3. i think it is thurrock tories that are barking mad,discussions are in progress to share services with Havering,Barking,essex county,basildon,castle point and southend,why do the tories only shout about barking?,is it because thats the direction all the nasty immigrants come from?,playing the race card?.

  4. rocket1 I think you have hit the nail on the head. For years saying Thurrock was becoming like London was a euphemism for lots of non white British folk moving into the borough. What message is really meant by saying Labour want to turn Thurrock into a London borough?

  5. It’s interesting that the issue of Shared Services by the Tories and others provokes the Race card. The political landscape in
    Thurrock will change on Thursday. People are entitled to question how their taxes are spent. People want value for money. Politicians need to convince Joe Public with well presented arguments and real facts and figures. The issue of Race is real for some people. Mud slinging is not want people want. We will need to wait and see how our new council decides it’s priorities. We live in interesting times.

  6. Interesting that not being able to get a school place for your child is a race thing. Not being able to get a doctors appointment for a fortnight is a race issue. Rising crime is a race issue. Violent crime and muggings are a race issue.Overcrowding and congestion on roads is a race issue. Building on greenbelt land because there’s nowhere else left is a race issue.

    Hands up all those that really honestly believe that sharing services with Barking and Dagenham has really improved life in Thurrock and those that complain about it are only doing so because they are racist. That would appear to make all councillors that aren’t Labour racist. Every person that doesn’t vote Labour is racist. Those that don’t want Thurrock flooded with immigrants are racist. There is no other motivation for their views. Here comes the race relations ambulance again.

  7. Interesting that not being able to get a school place for your child is a race thing. Not being able to get a doctors appointment for a fortnight is a race issue. Rising crime is a race issue. Violent crime and muggings are a race issue.Overcrowding and congestion on roads is a race issue. Building on greenbelt land because there’s nowhere else left is a race issue.

    Hands up all those that really honestly believe that sharing services with Barking and Dagenham has really improved life in Thurrock and those that complain about it are only doing so because they are racist. That would appear to make all councillors that aren’t Labour racist. Every person that doesn’t vote Labour is racist. Those that don’t want Thurrock flooded with immigrants are racist. There is no other motivation for their views. Here comes the race relations ambulance again.

  8. i think no voice has shot himself in the foot,how does sharing a chief executive with barking affect your childs schoolplace?

  9. I was under the impression, largely due to what Kent has said, that it was more than just a chief executive. Back to the point about Barking and Dagenham. Why them? Why not another council in Essex? Why was they the first council that was turned to? Kent won’t give us the answer so people are left to speculate. T

  10. its not only barking and dagenham,its just the tories fixating on barking and dagenham to scaremonger.

  11. They were the first. They are the ones that Thurrock shares most services with. Why? Thurrock isn’t a London borough, despite the efforts of some to turn it into one. The result appears to be that we have a bunch of part time managers at the council while everything around them is going down the pan.

    By all accounts the housing stock is a shambles, as is the repairs service. Thurrock has some of the worst educational standards in the country. We’re now officially one of the worst polluted areas in the country. This on top of all the other things I have mentioned that makes Thurrock such a great place to live. So sharing services with Barking and Dagenham has been another huge success story.

    We had a bin collection service in turmoil last year. Kent won’t tell anyone what cuts are going to be made until after the election. Councillors that don’t do what they’re paid to do. A controlling Labour group that has no control over it’s wayward councillors. Money meant to be going to help those in need going unspent.

    My bet is Labour will increase it’s majority on the council despite it’s total incompetence. How Thurrock ended up with two Tory MP’s is beyond me.

  12. i think no voice has just shot himself in the other foot,there are no efforts to turn thurrock into a london borough,its just the tories playing the race card.have them missing minutes turned up yet?.

  13. What amazes me is that the Labour party and its supporters have the bare faced cheek to call UKIP a one trick pony. You missed a trick rocket1. You didn’t blame it on the cost of living crisis. Another Labour strategy dribbling down the drain faster than you can say recovering economy. You may have to be sent to re-education camp.

  14. Sorry if I’m repeating myself, but… It’s estimated that Thurrock Council is saving approximately £1 million a year from sharing with Barking & Dagenham. That sounds impressive, but you need to remeber that Thurrock Council’s annual spending of public money is £171 million (this is from the reports to Council in February: £47 million on housing; £124 million on other services), so saving £1 million = 0.6% of their total spend. Is it really worth all that management time and effort to save such a small amount? Meanwhile, as others have pointed out, management are not sorting out schools, housing, refuse collection, mould, etc. Research suggest that Councils should aim to save 1.8% of their budget from sharing services (see NLGN). For Thurrock Council that means just over £3 million a year, so clearly the plan isn’t working – Thurrock residents are being short-changed.

  15. If your figures are true Ulysses you make a very good point. If they are not true someone from the Civic Offices can easily prove you wrong. We will see if they do.. Any savings are good news but getting into bed with anyone is a risk. The Republic of Barking or the Tory Grandees of Chelmsford both carry a risk. What will we gain by close cooperation with others? What is the Risk V Reward calculation. A decent politician could easily make a case one way or the other. How come no one has bothered? I hope that the new council what ever it looks like is confident enough to present their case one way or the other and let Joe Public see the facts of the argument.I won’t hold my breath. I have just put my cross in the box. Democracy. The worst form of Government. (Apart from all of the rest).

  16. Eric Pickles was behind shared services which David Cameron supports, yet local Tories oppose it and are scaremongering about a non-merger in an attempt to gain votes.

    Typical Tories.

  17. Sorry but Local politicians are allowed to have their own opinions. At least in the Tory party you can debate and hold different opinions to the Leadership. The old Soviet idea that the leader is always right no longer holds water. Political parties especially In local politics should represent local people on local issues. You don’t just fall into line because the Leadership says so. Dangerous Dave can pop into Thurrock for a photo opportunity and start telling everyone to start building on the Greenbelt but it doesn’t mean that the local Tories should all agree with him. He is gone now and possibly he will never come back to Thurrock again. If you concrete over a green space it will be gone for ever. Something’s are important enough to go to the barricades for. I think that the future is one of them.

  18. In this time of Austerity any cost savings must be applauded. More info on how much is being saved always helpful. Remember the most painful cuts are to come in Thurrock and control of the Council is very much taking on a Poison Chalice / catch 22. Damned if you lose Council damned for winning and carrying out £30m of Government cuts. A National Government that has now borrowed more than Labour did and is still awaiting to see shoots of Economic stimulus.

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